The two NDs I went to used nothing but supplements, supplements and more supplements. Neither had acupuncture training. The second one was more interested in recruiting patients to take Landmark Education classes. Both missed the real diagnosis, which should have been very easy for them with their training. The second ND had incredible problems with keeping ethical boundaries. I wanted to believe in naturopathy - I did >5 yrs with NDs, but can\'t bring myself to support licensing of these people because of the lack of clinical skills that I\'ve seen, that I\'ve heard from other people, and from what I\'ve read in this forum.